"philipilihp" (philiphilip)
06/09/2014 at 10:53 • Filed to: tirelopnik
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"philipilihp" (philiphilip)
06/09/2014 at 10:53 • Filed to: tirelopnik | 2
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Good Morning Oppo! I have narrowed my search down to 3 possibilities for new tires on my E90 335i sedan, but would appreciate some peer reviews on them.
(All prices are from Tirerack)
Option 1: Continental ExtremeContact DWS - $688 for set of 4
Option 2: Hankook Ventus S1 noble2 - $620
Option 3: Pirelli PZero Nero All Season - $602
I'm moving away from runflats for price reasons, and moving to All Seasons because I like to drive all year. Any Opponions about any of these tires would be very much appreciated!
(Not sure if it will work, but !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! is the comparison page I set up.)
Thank God I don't need tires for a Porsche 917.
Biased Plies
> philipilihp
06/09/2014 at 10:57 |
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If you see snow at all, the DWS are supposed to do quite well in slippery conditions. They were the other set I considered when I got tires last fall. I ended up with a set of Hankook Optimo 4S when they went on a sale that I couldn't resist and couldn't justify the price premium of the Contis.
QCGoose
> philipilihp
06/09/2014 at 10:58 |
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I have no reviews to give, but I will say that by moving away from run-flats, you should experience a better ride thanks to softer sidewalls and better efficiency, no matter how slight, thanks to lighter tires.
Jcarr
> philipilihp
06/09/2014 at 10:59 |
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The Conti DWS are good tires. I've had a set on our Jetta for 3 years or so and they've performeda and worn very well. I bought mine from Discount Tire Direct and if I remember right, they were cheaper there than on Tire Rack, or they were a little more expensive, but offered free shipping.
KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs
> philipilihp
06/09/2014 at 11:00 |
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I can't give you a recommendation on those. I'd probably take the Pirellis on price.
However...
Having lived in the snow belt, *nothing* beats a good set of snow tires. I'd take a RWD sedan with snows over an AWD with 3 season tires. I say that having driven a RWD sedan, in Chicago, with 3 season tires, and with snows.
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philipilihp
> KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs
06/09/2014 at 11:02 |
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Snow is definitely not as bad in Northern VA as it is in Chicago, but I don't have the space/means for a seperate set of summer/winter tires, unfortunately, although I would love to do that. All-Seasons are a bit of a compromise, but one that I can live with.
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philipilihp
> QCGoose
06/09/2014 at 11:03 |
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That's what I was thinking as well! And I'm just not ready to spend $1200 on a new set of tires just because they are runflats.
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philipilihp
> Jcarr
06/09/2014 at 11:04 |
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I'll check out Discount Tire Direct!
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philipilihp
> Biased Plies
06/09/2014 at 11:05 |
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According to the numbers on TireRack the DWS are a little better in light, deep, and ice traction than the Hankook, but in every other category the Hankooks outperform the Contis. Right now I'm leaning towards the middle of the road price-wise option in Hankooks, I just have no experience with the brand.
I Hoon Therefore I Am
> philipilihp
06/09/2014 at 11:06 |
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I am a fan of continental, I think they make the best all around tire and they last for a really long time too.
The Real Dacia Sandero
> philipilihp
06/09/2014 at 11:17 |
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The Continentals are fantastic if you have to deal with snow. The only thing better is a dedicated summer/snow setup.
CAR_IS_MI
> philipilihp
06/09/2014 at 11:19 |
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Avoid Pirelli. Everything I've every driven with Pirelli's the tires always piss me off.
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KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs
> philipilihp
06/09/2014 at 11:20 |
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Also, is there any reason you have not included the Michelin Pilot Sport A/Ss or Michelin Primacy? I'd assume that it would be price if they were excluded...
Corey
> philipilihp
06/09/2014 at 11:23 |
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I put a set of Conti ExtremeContact DW—I live in GA, so no need for the S—on my old 330ci and loved them. Then I put a set (a year later) of Conti ExtremeContact DW on my M3 and hated them. I don't know if they changed the recipe on them in that time frame, but it feels like the sidewalls got weaker. They don't feel as direct as the Michelin Pilot Sports I had on to begin with.
wabbalosthiskey
> philipilihp
06/09/2014 at 11:40 |
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DWS is fantastic as long as they are available in the size you want. Best of just about all worlds.
I've actually had great luck with the extremely odd-looking Nitto Invos as well. I needed tires for our e46 last year and wanted DWS's like no other, but were on infinite backorder. I always said there was no way I would consider Invos because they looked ridiculous, but after struggling for 2 weeks to find something better for the price I ended up buying a set and in the end really liked them. I have a lot of customers that go with them as well and always had good feedback.
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philipilihp
> KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs
06/09/2014 at 11:50 |
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Your assumption is correct. Based on the reviews, I decided that the price didn't warrant including them in my top-3.
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philipilihp
> wabbalosthiskey
06/09/2014 at 11:51 |
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I'll check them out. I hadn't thought about Nittos...
DocWalt
> philipilihp
06/09/2014 at 12:09 |
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The DWS is a great option if you don't mind them feeling numb. They're certainly not a responsive tire, but they have pretty decent grip in all conditions and they wear very well.
Mattbob
> philipilihp
06/09/2014 at 12:09 |
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I got Michelin pilot AS3's on sale a few months ago, and absolutely love them. Amazing wet grip etc... I think they are still doing a $70 rebate on them most places.
Jobjoris
> CAR_IS_MI
06/09/2014 at 17:17 |
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Well, not everything. Problem with Pirelli is that they seem not consistent in delivering tires of the same quality. I've driven P-zeroes that were really great. But when I mounted a new set on same car the handling became a bit 'unpredictable' or better 'indecisive'.
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CAR_IS_MI
> Jobjoris
06/09/2014 at 17:28 |
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Never once had good luck with anything they made, from factory spec to their performance branded tires.
mrazekan
> KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs
06/09/2014 at 18:16 |
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3 seasons are flat out dangerous in the snow. It's a guess, but the rubber compound just does not like the cold temps.
I have the Conti DW on my 900 and the DWS on a Civic Si. I really like them on both cars. But then again, I am a Continental fan. They are on my Tiger as well.
davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> philipilihp
06/10/2014 at 12:37 |
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I use the DWS as my winter tire here in Tulsa. Also had them on my previous car. No complaints.
Scurvy
> philipilihp
06/19/2014 at 15:48 |
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You may regret this decision in the future whilst stranded on the interstate late at night.. and please please DO NOT buy a can of 'fix-a-flat' and call it good.
Honestly if you can't fit a spare on board, I'd suggest getting a decent jack (even the OEM should suffice, a decent plug kit (I personally recommend this brand http://www.blackjacktirerepair.com/economy-repair… ), and a small portable compressor, I've done quite a few roadside repairs with this setup. Oh, and make sure your AAA card is up to date.
Also:
Do yourself a huge favor and get separate winter and summer tires, all-seasons are at best 3 season tires. I wise man once told me 'why cripple your car 12 months out of the year?'..
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philipilihp
> Scurvy
06/19/2014 at 16:14 |
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I do have roadside assistance from my insurance, but I'll think about the plug kit. I'll have to get a jack anyway, whether I get a spare or kit. That fix a flat crap is not something I'll do.